Joku enemmän luturismiin perehtynyt voisi valottaa mikä on tilanne muissa maissa. Jos aiheuttaa jotain aineellista vahinkoa jne. tietysti eri asia, mutta kai useimmissa maissa ja seuroissa soihdut jne. ovat sellaisia että sakot niistä kuuluu asiaan eikä niitä ruveta yksityishenkilöiltä karhuamaan?
Tästä ei varsinaisesti selviä sakottavatko liitot seuroja ja karhuavatko seurat sitten noita sakkoja kannattajilta, mutta muuten tämä kysely valottaa hieman seurojen ja/tai lajiliiton suhtautumista soihtuihin muualla ja soihdutuksesta langetettavia korvauksia:
FREEDOM FOR THE TERRACES6. Is the usage of pyrotechnic articles/flare legal or tolerated in your country? If so, on what terms? If not, what kinds of sanctions are there?
Muutamia poimintoja:
Itävalta:
Pyrotechnical devices are strictly forbidden since the new pyrotechnics
law is in force. Persons can be fined with up to 4.360 Euro or
four weeks in jail. Police is even allowed to search your house if they
do have the suspicion that you store pyrotechnics there.
Nevertheless, after negotiations from members of “Pyrotechnik ist
kein Verbrechen” with Bundesliga and security forces in autumn
2010 an exceptional rule was included in the pyrotechnics law. It
stated that after a positive request to police, local government and
clubs fans were allowed to use certified flares in special sections of
their stand and under special circumstances. This has led to the allowance
of the controlled burning of flares at Wacker Innsbruck and
Sturm Graz away ends. At other clubs this solution didn’t work out
well (because of stadium construction, misbehaviour of fans, police
and clubs which don’t support this idea) and also at away sectors
this exceptional rule didn’t turn out to be workable.
Belgia:
No, and it‘s punished more and more. For the first time you use
it, you have a minimum of 12 month of stadium banishment and a
fine of 500 €.
Bosnia-Hertsegovina:
Usage of pyrotechnic articles (flares, smoke bombs and similar) in
football matches is not legal in Bosnia and Herzegovina. If a fan is found
with a pyrotechnic article during the security search at the
entrance, the fine is about 300 KM (approx. 150 EUR). However,
once the pyrotechnic articles are used at the stadium, it is mostly
tolerated (i. e. security will not try to capture the fan).
Kroatia:
The use of flares is strictly prohibited, and the law proposes sanctions
such as fines from 100 € - 1500 € or 3 - 30 days prison sentences.
There are no exceptions or possibilities for a controlled
pyrotechnic performance. Although larger groups, despite these
measures, use pyrotechnics, it is much more difficult for smaller
groups.
Tanska:
No, the usage of pyrotechnic is illegal in Denmark. Most of the
football clubs are punishing the users of pyrotechnic with bans.
Some clubs have started to punish these people with huge fines
(4 - 5.000 DKK, 540 - 670 €.) Sadly, these huge fines will probably
lower the usage of pyrotechnic. But it is widely used in the bigger
clubs; Brøndby IF, FC Copenhagen, Odense Boldklub, AGF and
Aalborg Boldklub.
2012: Pyrotechnics are still illegal in Denmark. There is however a
small movement towards trying to introduce is, with Norway as a
good example. This is however still in the very very early stages..
Saksa:
No, it’s not legal to use any kind of pyrotechnics in Germany. In
lower leagues, the club board might tolerate it when the relation
between club and fans is really good. But in general, any kind of
pyrotechnics is strictly forbidden. Quite ironic is the fact that TV stations
and media in general use pictures of “burning terraces” from
abroad to promote a Mediterranean mood, but at the same time
fans in Germany using it, are branded by the media as hooligans,
violent criminals or terrorists.
Two years ago, a campaign was started by several ultra groups.
They’ve developed a concept how use pyrotechnics secure in the
stadia. This concept was given to the FA. The FA signalled their
willingness to talk about this concept at least.
Although there have been discussions about the general use of safe
pyrotechnics and the possibility of an experimental model, the FA
suddenly denied to have talked about anything like this. Instead they
use every opportunity to prove unpopularity and dangerousness of
pyrotechnics (including faked statistics) and ignore the safety thought
of the concept, unfortunately unverified adopted by most media.
Italia:
Pyros are definitely not allowed inside stadiums. Their usage was
tolerated in the past, but this has changed in the last couple of
years. Fans identified using flares or other pyro elements are often
sanctioned with stadium bans, although they are not always prosecuted
in court for that, and clubs are fined if their fans use pyros
or firecrackers.
There’s a particular regulation for flags, concerning especially the
rod length. Much depends on the police officials and stewards you
find outside the stadium.
Hollanti:
Pyrotechnics and flares are only tolerated if used by a professional
company in a possession of a permit. Any kind of use of fireworks
on the stand leads to a stadium ban for 18 months and a 450 € fine.
Norja:
For several years, organised pyrotechnic has been allowed in Norwegian
stadiums.
In case of violations to these rules, sanctions in the form of fines
can be given. Lately, other sanctions have been considered, but
never conducted.
Here are the main terms on how to get an allowance:
- A general allowance of the stadium has to be given, based on
an inspection with the fire department, the police and the owner
of the stadium to identify areas that are suited for the purpose.
This could, according to the regulations, be anywhere in the
stadium. The area(s) must be documented to the Norwegian FA.
This has to be done at least 3 weeks before the first arrangement.
- For each match where pyrotechnic is planned to be used, an
application must be sent to the Norwegian FA two workdays
before the match. The fire department, the police and the owner
of the stadium must be informed at least one workday before the
match. The application for the match must contain the following:
• Application must come from an official or acknowledged
supporters’ club
• Type and number of pyrotechnical material
• What area that will be used
• Detailed explanation of the use
- On match day, this is the procedure: the material is to be handed
over to security responsible in a fireproof box before the security
meeting. The security responsible should also inform about this
on the meeting, and make sure that the material matches the
application.
- Pyrotechnic material can only be used in the time before kick-off
- When used, metal buckets containing sand must be available.
The area also has to be physically or naturally separated from the
crowds. Security distances at least 1 meter.
- After use, all pyrotechnic material must be moved to a secured
area that is pointed out by the security responsible.
Just now, flares were also used up on the stands, with allowance
from the FA. The supporters were backed up by their clubs, in order
to get the allowance. These days, the application that was used
towards the FA, is being copied and spread with the wind.
Puola:
Using pyro in Poland is strictly forbidden. Until 2009 this rule was
already in place, but wasn’t followed much. However since new
legislation ahead of Euro 2012 this ban is treated with utmost care.
When flares are lit, police even take DNA samples or fingerprints to
find the ones responsible. There are cases when clubs ban even
drums, flags and other elements from entering the stadium, arguing
there may be flares smuggled inside.
Using or even trying to bring flares inside results with arrest and a
fast trial. Unless someone is hurt in association with this incident
(which doesn’t happen), outcome is usually a stadium ban from
2 to 6 years and a fine of several thousand zloty (nearing € 1.000
at highest points, to my knowledge). May also result in needing to
report at the police station during games.
There are incidental cases when flares are tolerated and don’t result
in penalties, but not anywhere near the big games.
Espanja:
All pyrotechnic articles are strictly forbidden in all stadiums. According
to the law sanctions are not very well defined since the same
offence can be qualified as “normal”, “heavy” or “very heavy” offences,
usually if there is” no damage or clear risk” caused by the use
of pyrotechnics, fines will be in the 150 € - 3,000 € range.
Ruotsi:
No, it‘s not legal nor tolerated. Some fans like pyrotechnic, some
don‘t. Sanctions see „stadium bans“ above.
Kannattaa ottaa huomioon, että kysely on pari vuotta vanha ja saattaa olla, etteivät kyselyyn vastanneet ole täysin perillä lainsäädännöstä ja esim. sakkojen suuruudet on ehkä heitetty päästä. Tai sitten ei...
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