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« Viimeksi muokattu: 09.11.2023 klo 23:07:57 kirjoittanut Kosmoksen Härkä »
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Vastaus #1 : 04.11.2023 klo 18:54:13 |
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Eihän tässä ole mitään hätää saksalaisten kanssa. HJK oppi jo kerrasta, miten heitä vastaan tulee kotona pelata. Oppirahat maksettiin jo 1975, kun Hertha Berlin voitti Olympiastadionilla niukasti HJK:n 1-2.
Kymmenen vuotta myöhemmin istuin Olympiastadionilla ja katsoin Dynamo Dresdenin menoa HJK:ta vastaan. Matthias Sammerin siivittämä joukkue joutui toteamaan, että sinivalkoiset olivat napsua kovempi porukka, mitä he ehkä kuvittelivat sen olevan. HJK – Dynamo Dresden 1-0. Reilu kymmenen vuotta myöhemmin Matthias Sammer kätteli Wemleyllä kuningatar Elisabetia. Saksa oli kukistanut finaalissa isäntämaan ja Matthias Sammer valittiin Euroopan parhaaksi pelaajaksi.
Vierähtää 12 vuotta ja istun taas Olympiastadionilla, mutta en suinkaan yksin. Yleisömäärä FC Kaiserslauternia vastaan oli yli 20 000 (21 217). Otto Rehhagelilla olisi ollut laitaa kentälle uransa aikana lähes 100 maaottelua pelanneen Michael Ballackin, mutta sitä hän ei koskaan tehnyt. Muurinen puolestaan laittoi kentälle Riihilahden, Lehkosuon, Kanervan, Wissin, Vasaran, Erkka V. Lehtolan ja Tihisen – näin muutaman tutun nimen mainitakseni. Erkka V. Lehtola varmaan muistaa vieläkin tilanteen, jossa hänelle tarjottiin sankarin viittaa hartioille, mutta veto avopaikasta meni valitettavasti yli maalin. Maalivahti Andreas Reinke oli lopulta se mies, joka esti HJK:n voiton parilla upealla torjunnalla. Lopputulos oli 0-0.
Vuosi 1998 oli viimeistä vuosikertaa, kun istuin otteluissa. Nyt hypätään 2000 luvulle ja taas saadaan saksalaisia kylään. Olympiastadion on jäänyt sivuun ja nyt olemme siirtyneet Finnair Stadiumille ja minä olen noussut jaloilleni. Benedikt Höwedes voitti urallaan maailmanmestaruuden, muttei HJK:ta Helsingissä. Teemu Pukin maalit FC Schalke 04:n verkkoon elää vieläkin mielessäni. HJK – FC Schalke 2-0.
Kuten huomataan, niin vuoden -75 jälkeen saksalaiset eivät ole Helsingissä tehneet maaliakaan HJK:n verkkoon. Pidetään tästä kiinni ja otetaan vähintään se tasapeli.
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« Viimeksi muokattu: 05.11.2023 klo 16:46:19 kirjoittanut Olaf Thon »
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Adinho
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Vastaus #2 : 06.11.2023 klo 00:35:09 |
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Kylmä, pimeä, kenties sateinenkin ilta Töölön tekonurmella. Ei mikään helppo iltapuhde Bankfurtin väelle. Kiima yltyy! ![Tuoppi](http://futisforum2.org/Smileys/original/tuoppi.gif)
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Vastaus #3 : 06.11.2023 klo 15:02:54 |
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Alkuun pari maalia, joilla hiljennetään invaasio. Kyllähän tässä alkaa fiilis nousta päivä päivältä. Klubi vie 3-1.
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Vastaus #4 : 06.11.2023 klo 15:35:26 |
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Omiin pari maalia, joilla hiljennetään klubipääty.
Reality checked.
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Vastaus #5 : 06.11.2023 klo 17:49:23 |
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Klubin katiskaan tullut muutamia lippuja myyntiin.
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Vastaus #6 : 06.11.2023 klo 18:15:37 |
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Klubin katiskaan tullut muutamia lippuja myyntiin.
Ja taisi mennä melko vikkelään ne.
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Adinho
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Vastaus #7 : 06.11.2023 klo 20:06:13 |
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Ennakkoa Eintrachtin sivuilta. https://profis.eintracht.de/2023-2024/uefa-europa-conference-league/spielplan/hjk-eintracht-frankfurt/vorschau/Eintracht can distance HJK in the group on Thursday. While Frankfurt's victories are piling up and processes and rotation are taking effect, Helsinki has sorted out personnel during the league break.
Initial situation: competitor PAOK, focus HJK A lot can happen in a month. When Eintracht Frankfurt visits HJK Helsinki for the fourth group game of the UEFA Europa Conference League on Thursday, the Bundesliga club will have been unbeaten for over a month. The last time the Hessians were without something countable was on October 5th in Thessaloniki, when PAOK made it 2-1 in the last minute. Because the Greeks managed the same feat against Aberdeen FC after being 2-0 down in stoppage time, they lead Group G with a maximum of nine points. The first pursuer is the SGE with six points ahead of Aberdeen and Helsinki, each with one draw and two defeats.
Review: history made In this respect, the meeting from 7.45 p.m. local time (6.45 p.m. CET) is one of three chances for the guests to keep the race for the top open, while the Finnish record champions can hardly afford another defeat if the European journey is to continue next year. Because not much can happen in four weeks. Although the Finns were at the top with a three-goal lead at the end of the championship round, their last three-pointer was on September 27th, a 3-0 win against league rivals FC Honka.
Since October 21st, the national obligation has been fulfilled and the season has ended, which is why those responsible made the first nails with heads between the two duels with Eintracht and, in addition to extending the contract of goalkeeper Jesse Öst on Sunday, two days after the 6-0 defeat in the city forest announced that they would start the new season with Ferran Sibila as head coach. The 35-year-old Spaniard will replace master coach Toni Korkeakunnas at the turn of the year.
The highest wins in the UEFA Europa Conference League - October 5, 2023: Nordsjælland – Ludogorets 7:1 - October 26, 2023: Fiorentina – Čukarički 6-0 - October 26, 2023: Eintracht Frankfurt – HJK Helsinki 6-0
Eintracht's 6-0 victory two weeks ago was not only one of the three biggest victories in Europa Conference League history, but in retrospect it was also the starting point of a recurring rotation scheme. While there was rarely more than one change in the starting eleven between Bundesliga match days seven, eight, nine and ten, the coaching team regularly trusted four to six new players in the starting line-up for the tasks during the week. Rhythm for some, protection for others. Except for the 3-3 draw against Dortmund, the result was identical: victory.
Which is why, for the third English week in a row, the question is less about probability and more about names. There has been no shortage of letters of recommendation recently, whether as a starter or a joker.
Basic work for top performance The series could certainly be continued, but the bottom line is that one thing remains. “We have developed well, especially in the last few weeks. Every single player has developed. The automatisms have developed. And we win the games and have the consistency in front of the goal,” says Markus Krösche, describing his assessment. “It is important that the coaching team connects with the team. “That’s what we’re pushing,” explains the sports director, explaining the route.
Dino Toppmöller happily and successfully preaches that these automatisms are not automatic: “You can say that we are on a really good path. It is important to continue the flow. The basic requirement remains to always invest extremely heavily. They are all great guys who are ready to accept the games as they are.”
Artificial turf in Helsinki The next change is already waiting in Scandinavia. The Bolt Arena has artificial turf rather than natural turf. “I knew this from my youth, but I haven't had it for a while. So it will be a special game. We’re going there to win,” said Robin Koch, looking towards Northern Europe a few minutes after the final whistle in Berlin on Saturday.
The defensive giant, who moved to the Main in the summer, can be sure of one thing after just a few months. “The cup game in Cologne was crazy. Now in Berlin again. Even if it seems normal at Eintracht to have such support away from home, it remains something special that we really appreciate.”
The appointment calendar is also apparently well received by the team. “It's happening in quick succession, it feels like we have a game every other day. But the team is having a lot of fun. It means regenerating, resting and just focusing on every game,” said Koch, who is also the most successful setter in the Europa Conference League with 223 passes. There could be a few more to come.
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Vastaus #8 : 06.11.2023 klo 21:05:20 |
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Turpiin tulee vähintään kahdella maalilla, mutta onhan nämä hienoja iltoja.
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Vastaus #9 : 06.11.2023 klo 22:11:12 |
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Turpiin tulee vähintään kahdella maalilla, mutta onhan nämä hienoja iltoja.
Jep. Lopputuloksella ei ole väliä enään tässä vaiheessa. Nämä illat muistetaan vuosienkin päästä ja Klubille tulee fyrkkaa sekä näkyvyyttä. Pääasia toki, että pääsee matsiin vielä marraskuussakin.
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Vastaus #10 : 07.11.2023 klo 12:20:47 |
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Paljonko on tulossa vierasfaneja?
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Epeli
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Vastaus #11 : 07.11.2023 klo 14:16:12 |
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Paljonko on tulossa vierasfaneja?
Kiintiö-500 plus mahdollisesti muihin katsomoihin lipun onnistuneesti hommanneet. Kaupungilla saattaa olla vielä leegio liputtomia.
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Vastaus #12 : 07.11.2023 klo 17:23:34 |
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Kusilaarilla huhuiltu, että 1500 lippua myyty Frankfurtille ja arviolta 3000 saksalaista matkustamassa Helsinkiin.
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Vastaus #13 : 07.11.2023 klo 17:24:13 |
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Frankfurtilaisten bussi oli Hotel Kämpin edessä parkissa. Sieltä bongailemaan mariogötzejä.
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Dirk Kuyt
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Suosikkijoukkue: Klubi, Huuhkajat ja suomalaisten jengit ulkomailla
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Vastaus #14 : 07.11.2023 klo 17:32:55 |
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Frankfurtilaisten bussi oli Hotel Kämpin edessä parkissa. Sinne soittamaan torvia ja hakkaamaan rumpuja koko yöksi ennen peliä.
Korjasin viestisi.
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Vastaus #15 : 07.11.2023 klo 17:52:48 |
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Klubin somevideoiden perusteella Niki näyttää olevan taas täydessä harjoitusvahvuudessa, joten Frankfurtin tekemien maalien odotusarvo taisi juuri tippua 4 -> 2. Yllätystasuri ei vaadi enää kuin yhtä Keskisen vastahyökkäysmaalia ja yhtä lisäajan persepomppua kulmasta. ![Ylos](http://futisforum2.org/Smileys/original/thumbup.gif)
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Vastaus #16 : 07.11.2023 klo 17:55:31 |
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Ennen kun mut bännätään trokaamisesta varmistan, voiko täällä kaupata matsiin flabaa?
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Adinho
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Vastaus #17 : 07.11.2023 klo 18:00:13 |
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Frankfurtilaisten bussi oli Hotel Kämpin edessä parkissa. Sieltä bongailemaan mariogötzejä.
Kuka hoitaa palohälytyksen laukaisemisen klo 03 ke-to yönä?
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Vastaus #18 : 07.11.2023 klo 19:07:21 |
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Aikataulu torstaille. ![Tuoppi](http://futisforum2.org/Smileys/original/tuoppi.gif) Torstaina Töölöön saapuu vieraaksi jättiläinen Saksasta. Luvassa on suuri eurooppalainen ilta ja jokaisen klubilaisen täytyy pitää huolta siitä, että ei jäädä kannatuksessa kakkoseksi kotona.
Odotamme kaikkia kannattajia katsomoon viimeistään klo 19:00
Matsin alussa tifo! ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-V96FiWwAA8gY6?format=jpg&name=small)
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Vastaus #19 : 07.11.2023 klo 19:30:17 |
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Ennakkoa Frankfurter Rundschausta. https://www.fr.de/eintracht-frankfurt/eintracht-frankfurt-hat-respekt-vorm-kunstgruen-in-helsinki-92659715.htmlEintracht Frankfurt doesn't want to show any weaknesses in Helsinki despite the unfamiliar ground
When Eintracht Frankfurt sets off for Finland on Wednesday, the first priority for the Bundesliga club, which is sailing upwards, is not to expose itself on the international stage in the fight for the top spot in Conference League Group G. Eintracht is lurking With six points in second place behind Paok Saloniki (nine), the two remaining participants, FC Aberdeen and HJK Helsinki, are lagging behind with one point in third and fourth place. In all likelihood, things will not continue for them in Europe. For unity, yes.
But in the end she has to take first place if she wants to qualify directly for the round of 16. Otherwise, they will have to make it to the second round in the new year against a relegated third-placed team in the Europa League. Like she did two years ago in the Europa League, she would rather avoid that.
The signs are clear, Frankfurt are the clear favorites against the capital club HJK Helsinki on Thursday (6.45 p.m./RTL+), as they were in the first leg. Two weeks ago they swept over the pitiful Scandinavians like a hurricane and scored a 6-0 victory, which was justified even on this impressive scale and is one of the three highest results in the - admittedly - still short history of the competition.
Eintracht is doomed to win on the unpopular artificial turf in the Bolt Arena if they want to stay close to Salonika and make the second leg against the Greeks the finale for group victory. Eintracht still has a score to settle with Paok after the tumult and provocations from the encounter at the beginning of October. “You can expect a hot dance, we will approach the game with maximum energy,” coach Dino Toppmöller had already announced. The fact that Paok is at the top is thanks to their evident will to win: in each of the three group games so far, they scored in stoppage time, including against Eintracht. Most recently, they made up for a 2-0 deficit against Aberdeen and scored to win 3-2 after 96 minutes.
But before Paok we first go to Helsinki. So what can Frankfurters expect in the north – apart from constant rain? One question will certainly be whether the hosts have learned their lessons from the first leg. There they even had the first good opportunity to score, which substitute keeper Jens Grahl brilliantly destroyed, but subsequently decided to try a playful and more offensive approach. This was punished mercilessly.
Eintracht is winning big - For Eintracht, in addition to the points for the ranking, it is also about important points in the UEFA coefficient rankings. There she has pushed herself far forward through regular participation in international business and success. There are two UEFA points for every win in the group stage of the Conference League. - The interesting thing about it: All points weigh the same, which means: Even in the big brothers, the Europa League and Champions League, there are only two points for each group game won. - Each of these points is valuable in terms of the coefficient ranking and the international marketing of the DFL. There, Eintracht made a whopping 15 million euros this season - only Bayern received more. major
“They wanted to play,” said sports director Markus Krösche and didn’t forget to add, “unlike Aberdeen.” In Frankfurt, the Scots consistently stood around their own penalty area with ten men and almost saved a 1-1 draw over time - if Robin Koch hadn't brought Frankfurt's new strength to light, set pieces. It looked like this: Fares Chaibi corner, Koch header – goal. 2:1. A victory that could still be very valuable in retrospect.
So will the Finns also try to be bulwarks? That doesn't actually correspond to their philosophy, but as we all know, the end justifies the means. It is certainly not an advantage for the hosts that they have been out of the game for a long time. The championship has been over since October 21st. HJK won the title, but it was anything but confident. Which is why master coach Toni Korkeakunnas is leaving the club at the turn of the year and Ferran Sibila is being installed as head coach. In the European Cup, however, things will continue with the same personnel constellation.
However, the unfamiliar surface could be a help for the Finns, Eintracht will only hold one training session on the artificial green, the Scandinavians are used to it. “I know that from my youth,” said defense chief Robin Koch. "But I haven't played it for a while now, so it will be a special game." It will, of course, be an adjustment. So all in all, the floor covering is great. “We’re going there to win.”
And it can be assumed that coach Toppmöller will start the rotation machine again this time. He always did that – at least when there was no Bundesliga coming up. Defender Tuta will definitely be out as he suffered a bruised shoulder in the Union game. Football teacher Toppmöller has developed a good feeling, he changes in homeopathic doses and manages not to noticeably weaken the team, even though new players are joining the team. This means that all players experience importance, can recommend and show themselves and are also kept happy. You have something to gain, but also something to lose. Because Toppmöller looks closely. Just one example: After Jens Petter Hauge's extremely unfortunate appearance in the cup against Viktoria Köln, the Norwegian did not make it into the squad for the next Bundesliga game in Berlin. Toppmöller acts strictly according to the performance principle. Good this way.
In the league, the coach is largely sticking to his regular formation, and a first eleven has clearly emerged. In the other two competitions, however, he often replaces half of the team. There will certainly be rotation in Helsinki too. Even with a jazzed up second suit, nothing should burn. Actually.
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Vastaus #20 : 07.11.2023 klo 19:36:07 |
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Ennen kun mut bännätään trokaamisesta varmistan, voiko täällä kaupata matsiin flabaa?
Voi, kunhan et pyydä siitä enempää hintaa kuin itse maksoit.
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Vastaus #21 : 07.11.2023 klo 21:22:53 |
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Kiintiö-500 plus mahdollisesti muihin katsomoihin lipun onnistuneesti hommanneet. Kaupungilla saattaa olla vielä leegio liputtomia.
Mitenköhän tämä pitäisi tulkita? ”Vieraskatsomo on ääriä myöten loppuunmyyty” Tarkoittaako se 500 vai 1500 paikkaa? Das Gästekontingent ist restlos ausverkauft, sodass es vor Ort keine Tageskasse geben wird. Eintracht-Fans mit Tickets außerhalb des Gästeblocks wird der Zutritt zum Stadion verwehrt. https://fans.eintracht.de/news/auswaerts-in-helsinki-uefa-europa-conference-league-2023-24-154580
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Vastaus #22 : 07.11.2023 klo 21:28:50 |
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PAOK-pelissähän oli junnupäädystä noin puolet kreikkalaisilla (ja heitä taisi olla aika lähelle se vieraskiintiön 5%) ja noin puolet stadilaisilla. Eli siis varmaankin lähempänä tuota 500, jos Klubi ei jostain syystä myy Frankfurtin väelle enempää kuin tarvitsee.
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Vastaus #23 : 07.11.2023 klo 22:40:39 |
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Taitaa olla koko pohjoinen saksalaisille.
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Vastaus #24 : 07.11.2023 klo 22:51:32 |
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No parempi tuo järjestely on kuin että sakuja on sitten hajallaan pitkin muuta stadionia. Ilmeisesti myös poliisin vaatimukset on sellaiset, että tuolla puolikkaalla päädylläkin turva-alueet olisi kuitenkin niin suuret että päädystä jäisi sitten toinen puoli kokonaan tyhjäksi, joten tavallaan ymmärrän että Klubi sitten mielummin rahastaa nuo fyrkat lipputuloina itselleen. No, hyvä tapa hiljentää vierailijat on tehdä maaleja. ![:)](http://futisforum2.org/Smileys/original/smiley.gif)
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