Kolmonen, Nelonen, Vitonen, Kutonen, Seiska 2010 - The complete picture?

[Finnish Gas]

One small correction to team details, Souls ACs home town is Jyväskylä from this season on, they´re not from Muurame anymore.

Keep up the great work!

Thanks JiiPee.  I suppose that Muuramen Yritys will now be the only club from Muurame.

I now show that Souls AC are based in Jyväskylä:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelonen_%28soccer_league%29#Central_Finland_.28Keski-Suomi.29

[Finnish Gas]

Pajamäen Pallo-Veikot

Team plays in Section 1 (Lohko 1) of the Kolmonen administered by the Helsinki SPL and Uusimaa SPL:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pajam%C3%A4en_Pallo-Veikot


Any errors or feedback welcome?

[JiiPee]

Thanks JiiPee.  I suppose that Muuramen Yritys will now be the only club from Muurame.

I now show that Souls AC are based in Jyväskylä:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelonen_%28soccer_league%29#Central_Finland_.28Keski-Suomi.29

That´s right, although last season both of Muuramen Yritys teams had serious troubles getting enough players for matches, the second team had to give up Viitonen in the mid-season and the first team played some matches with just nine players. Hopefully they´ll get one team to play Viitonen this season, at least they should have a nice bunch of youngsters there.

Btw, in that link Souls ACs town of settlement is still Muurame, probably the change didn´t update or something.

[Finnish Gas]

That´s right, although last season both of Muuramen Yritys teams had serious troubles getting enough players for matches, the second team had to give up Viitonen in the mid-season and the first team played some matches with just nine players. Hopefully they´ll get one team to play Viitonen this season, at least they should have a nice bunch of youngsters there.

Btw, in that link Souls ACs town of settlement is still Muurame, probably the change didn´t update or something.

Thanks for the info JiiPee.  The link below has been updated - I think it is just an issue of refreshing your page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelonen_%28soccer_league%29#Central_Finland_.28Keski-Suomi.29

[JiiPee]

Thanks for the info JiiPee.  The link below has been updated - I think it is just an issue of refreshing your page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelonen_%28soccer_league%29#Central_Finland_.28Keski-Suomi.29

Okay, works well through Finnish Soccer League System --> Fourth Division, but the direct link takes me to old version for some reason. Well never mind, it´s ok anyway!

[Kalza]

Okay, works well through Finnish Soccer League System --> Fourth Division, but the direct link takes me to old version for some reason. Well never mind, it´s ok anyway!

Shows up as Muurame via the direct link for me too. Strange!

[Finnish Gas]

Vitonen Vaasa 2010

I attach Vitonen Vaasa 2010 below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitonen#Vaasa


Any errors or feedback?   Is Tervalaakso a suburb of Vaasa?

[BrDead]

Is Tervalaakso a suburb of Vaasa?

Minor part of a suburb, I think. Between Vetokannas and Isolahti. Might be a part of Isolahti.

[tuge]

There have been changes in Helsinkis kutonen & seiska. Some relegated teams were promoted back to kutonen (due to open spots?) and seiska groups are re-organized.
http://helsinki.palloliitto.fi/kilpailutoiminta/piirisarjat/pelitapa_2010/miehet/

[Finnish Gas]

There have been changes in Helsinkis kutonen & seiska. Some relegated teams were promoted back to kutonen (due to open spots?) and seiska groups are re-organized.
http://helsinki.palloliitto.fi/kilpailutoiminta/piirisarjat/pelitapa_2010/miehet/

Many thanks tuge.  I will amend soon.  This issue of late changes to the approved league structure will of course arise in other SPL Districts and I would be really grateful for notification of any approved amendments (with a link if possible).

[Finnish Gas]

Kutonen Vaasa 2010

I attach Kutonen Vaasa 2010 below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutonen#Vaasa


Any errors or feedback welcome.

[Finnish Gas]

SAPA Helsinki

Team plays in Section 1 (Lohko 1) of the Kolmonen administered by the Helsinki SPL and Uusimaa SPL:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAPA_%28Savannan_Pallo%29


Any errors or feedback welcome?

[BrDead]

SAPA Helsinki

Team plays in Section 1 (Lohko 1) of the Kolmonen administered by the Helsinki SPL and Uusimaa SPL:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAPA_%28Savannan_Pallo%29


Any errors or feedback welcome?

Full and official name of the club is nowadays SAPA. Not original Savannan Pallo.

Information concerning SAPA from Finnish AssosicationNet:

Reg.number    Domicile    Date of first reg.    Date of latest reg.    Name
102.768            Helsinki    03.02.1970            03.09.2009                    SAPA ry

[Finnish Gas]

SAPA   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAPA_%28Savannan_Pallo%29

Full and official name of the club is nowadays SAPA. Not original Savannan Pallo.

Information concerning SAPA from Finnish AssosicationNet:

Reg.number    Domicile    Date of first reg.    Date of latest reg.    Name
102.768            Helsinki    03.02.1970            03.09.2009                    SAPA ry

Thanks BrDead.   I think that we have an interesting debate on this one!

I was very aware that SAPA is now the official name and that Savannan Pallo is the lapsed historic one.  In terms of providing a SAPA page in English Wikipedia there is a problem as the term “SAPA” has already been taken and links to the South African Press Association.

I was therefore left to question the options that I could use for the SAPA football club?  There appeared to be two:

“SAPA Helsinki”   or     “SAPA (Savannan Pallo)”

I chose the latter because it appears that the term Savannan Pallo is still part of the psyche of SAPA.  That is clear when you visit the club’s Facebook Page

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6503741955

Perhaps others have a view on the best way forward in particular those from SAPA.  Should English Wikipedia use:

1. “SAPA Helsinki”
2. “SAPA (Savannan Pallo)”
3. “SAPA ry”
4.  or another option

Similar issues probably arise with other clubs that have taken over their abbreviated name as their official name e.g. 

1. “HIFK Soccer”  OR
2. “HIFK (Idrottsföreningen Kamraterna rf, Helsingfors)”

[Finnish Gas]

Vitonen Satakunta 2010

I would like to complete the Vitonen page at the moment have Vitonen Satakunta 2010 outstanding.   Does anyone know the confirmed clubs for this section?  The page below from SPL Satakunta does not currently clarify the position.

http://satakunta.palloliitto.fi/kilpailu/jalkapallo/piirin_sarjat/

[Finnish Gas]

Tikkurilan Palloseura

Men's Team plays in Section 1 (Lohko 1) of the Kolmonen administered by the Helsinki SPL and Uusimaa SPL:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkurilan_Palloseura


Any errors or feedback welcome?


I would grateful if someone can explain the relationship of TiPS with AC Vantaa

RSSF (http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/finall.html) provide the following reference;

AC Vantaa
- TiPS Vantaa (#1) until 1998
- AC Vantaa since 1999 (merger with VJS Vantaa)
B  4: 1996-97, 1999, 2001
C 13: 1980-85, 1991-92, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2002-03

What is going on?

[BrDead]

Tikkurilan Palloseura

Men's Team plays in Section 1 (Lohko 1) of the Kolmonen administered by the Helsinki SPL and Uusimaa SPL:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tikkurilan_Palloseura


Any errors or feedback welcome?


I would grateful if someone can explain the relationship of TiPS with AC Vantaa

RSSF (http://www.rsssf.com/tablesf/finall.html) provide the following reference;

AC Vantaa
- TiPS Vantaa (#1) until 1998
- AC Vantaa since 1999 (merger with VJS Vantaa)
B  4: 1996-97, 1999, 2001
C 13: 1980-85, 1991-92, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2002-03

What is going on?

AC Vantaa was the first try to create common Vantaa based representative team. TiPS gave up their place in Kakkonen to AC Vantaa and AC Vantaa was the representative team for both VJS and TiPS (and maybe also there were some more minor clubs in that alliance). Nowadays AC Vantaa doesn't rely on any of the Vantaa-based youth clubs.

[Finnish Gas]

AC Vantaa was the first try to create common Vantaa based representative team. TiPS gave up their place in Kakkonen to AC Vantaa and AC Vantaa was the representative team for both VJS and TiPS (and maybe also there were some more minor clubs in that alliance). Nowadays AC Vantaa doesn't rely on any of the Vantaa-based youth clubs.

Thanks for the info BrDead.  I suppose the remaining question is whether the TiPS playing record (pre-merger with AC Vantaa in 1998) should relate now to AC Vantaa or TiPS?   My view is that the pre-1998 record should relate to the current TiPS team.   Am I correct?

[BrDead]

Thanks for the info BrDead.  I suppose the remaining question is whether the TiPS playing record (pre-merger with AC Vantaa in 1998) should relate now to AC Vantaa or TiPS?   My view is that the pre-1998 record should relate to the current TiPS team.   Am I correct?

I think so too.

[Finnish Gas]

FC Brändöpojkarna

Three days ago I put up Kutonen Vaasa 2010 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutonen#Vaasa) on English Wikipedia.

I was delighted today to see that a new club from Vaasa - FC Brändöpojkarna - has now linked to the Kutonen page.

Details of FC Brändöpojkarna prepared by Sbah can be viewed on the link below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Br%C3%A4nd%C3%B6pojkarna


I would like to encourage other clubs to follow the lead of FC Brändöpojkarna and put up their own English page.  I can always be of assistance if you need any help.

[Finnish Gas]

Tampereen Peli-Pojat-70

I previously indicated that I would update this PP-70 entry:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampereen_Peli-Pojat-70


Any errors or feedback welcome?  It would be nice to update the current players for 2010.

[vili bin ali muhammad]

So you finished Section one?

[Kalza]

I would like to encourage other clubs to follow the lead of FC Brändöpojkarna and put up their own English page.  I can always be of assistance if you need any help.

Is there some kind of template for a football team from which to start creating a page? I've never created anything new on Wikipedia, only edited the existing pages. I guess creating the pages won't be that hard, there are a lot of howto-articles about that...

[Finnish Gas]

Kutonen Keski-Pohjanmaa 2010

I attach Kutonen Keski-Pohjanmaa:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutonen#Central_Ostrobothnia_.28Keski-Pohjanmaa.29


Any errors or feedback welcome?

[Finnish Gas]

Is there some kind of template for a football team from which to start creating a page? I've never created anything new on Wikipedia, only edited the existing pages. I guess creating the pages won't be that hard, there are a lot of howto-articles about that...

Hi Kalza

I have yet to come across a template that I would recommend that you should use.  I find the best method by far is to look at good examples of other club's Wikipedia pages and then go to the edit (muokkaa) section of the best ones and copy and paste the format that they have used on to my new page.  I then superimpose my new content.  I find the results can be quite striking even though I have only a very limited knowledge of the Wikipedia toolbox.

Kind regards

Finnish Gas

NB:  You may find the Template:Infobox football club of some help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_football_club